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tomclare
8th December 2006, 18:21
I though that I had posted this one some time ago but it appears as if I haven't. These are my recollections of the blackest day in the Club's history.

Munich – The Aftermath

Although I was just 13 when the tragedy happened, my memories of that time have never dimmed. Britain had recently emerged from the post-war period, rationing had not long ceased, most people were employed in some capacity or another. Food tasted just as it was meant to (not like the crap we eat today), t.v. was still in its formative years, and for the majority of males, and a small percentage of females as well, weekend meant going to the match - be it cricket or football. Sundays were Sundays - a day of rest, whether you liked it or not!

The tragedy happened on a Thursday afternoon, and I can remember that day vividly. It was cold, and bleak, and some areas of the city experienced snow that afternoon. It was dark before 4p.m. After school, I had trudged down Ardwick Green, schoolbag on shoulder, and crossed Downing Street, into Rusholme Road. On the corner of that junction was a pet shop named Wyman's, and I was fortunate to have a job there, which was delivering pet food to various outlets in the area. I delivered what was really nothing more than horsemeat which was minced and used as dog food. I delivered it mostly to business outlets in the Fairfield, City Centre, and local areas. Jean Wyman, and her husband David, who owned the business, always had a flask of Oxo prepared for me in those winter months, and I would take this with me, and devour it as I walked the beat in the winter cold, delivering the dog food to their customers. My spirit that day was so good - the reason- Well, the previous day, United had put on a marvelous performance in Belgrade to draw 3-3 with Red Star, the Yugoslavian Army team. They were into the semi-finals of the European Cup again, and the large majority of United supporters, wanted them to draw Real Madrid so that they could gain revenge for the narrow defeat in the competition the previous season.

As I walked my delivery round, I can remember that the banter between the customers, and myself, was terrific. They all knew that I was United daft, and they were all pulling my leg as they paid their debts to me - we used to have threepenny bets on United's results! The first time that I had any foreboding, and sensed that something was wrong, was when I walked down Store Street, under the long railway arch, above which was London Road LMR Station (now Piccadilly) and out onto London Road. I used to deliver to a Wilson's pub across the road on the corner of Whitworth Street, facing the Fire Station, named The White Hart. There was a newspaper man there every night, selling the Evening News, and the Evening Chronicle. As I crossed over to his side of the road, he had just finished putting up a poster with the headline " Stop Press -United Plane Crashes at Munich." The "Stop Press" was a column on the right hand side of the newspaper, which contained a late headline for any breaking news that had not been in the wires before publication time. It looked as though the newspapers had been run through a Gestetner machine in order to include these headlines, after the newspaper had actually been printed. I hurriedly paid my tuppence for the Chron, but all it said was "Manchester United's Plane has crashed at Munich Airport - more to follow in later edition." At first, we all thought that it was just something minor, and nothing to worry about. I delivered to various people in the old Fires Station, but as I got further down London Road, and into Downing Street, the news had started to filter through about the crash on the wireless. The publican at the old Gog and Magog was the first to tell me that there had been fatalities, although he couldn't say who they were. It was almost 6p.m. by the time that I got back to Wyman's, but Jean and David knew nothing of the unfolding tragedy. I ran all the way up Rusholme Road, until I reached Royle Street, where I lived, and I ran into the house, to find my father, sitting besides the fireplace, with tears streaming down his face. He'd come home from Henshaw's Blind School which used to be situated close to Old Trafford, where he was training to be a joiner after losing his sight, and he had heard the news on the wireless.

By this time, more and more news was filtering through, and we sat there together, for the next few hours as the names of those lost became confirmed; Roger Byrne, Eddie Colman, Geoff Bent, Billy Whelan, Tommy Taylor, Mark Jones, David Pegg, Walter Crickmer, Tom Curry, Bert Whalley, Alf Clarke, Tom Jackson, Henry Rose, Archie Ledbrooke, Don Davies, and then finally, Frank Swift.

The hours passed, and it was as if we were all in a trance, as though time had stood still. Mum was at home, my sister was at home, but there was little or no conversation - we just sat there in the dim firelight, listening, waiting, praying, a heavy sadness enveloping the whole house. For me, a 13 years old boy, it was unthinkable that I would not be seeing my heroes play Wolves at Old Trafford in a vital league game on the following Saturday afternoon. I cried so much that evening, and went to bed hoping that it was all a horrible dream, and that I would awake the following morning to find that all was well. Unfortunately, when I did awake, I was to find out about the harshness and reality of life. Dad didn't go to work that morning, as did hardly anybody else in the City. The reality was all there before us in the morning editions of the newspapers and on the durther news bulletins given out on the wireless . Pictures, stories, tales of heroism, but starkly, the the story of the decimation of a team of wonderful young boys, backroom staff, and the cream of the British Sporting Press.

The atmosphere in the City during the days that followed was surreal - a great pall of mourning was constantly there. Adults openly shed tears. I can remember that each day I cried so much, could not eat, and had no interest in playing out, or doing anything much at all that young boys of that age do. So much so, that Mum had to keep me off school for some time. In hindsight, and something my parents agreed with me about years later, was the fact that I was in shock. I'd known a number of those boys, played with them during the summer months at the Galleon Open Air Swimming Pool in Didsbury. They were my idols, my heroes. During the previous three and a half years, I'd hardly missed a match at Old Trafford - in effect, I'd been growing up with them. It was beyond my comprehension that I wouldn't be seeing Tommy Taylor, David Pegg or Billy Whelan again - players I had got to know. If there was a light, it was that Duncan was surviving, and things looked optimistic for his recovery.

A few days after the tragedy, the coffins bearing the bodies of those that perished, returned home, and on a cold, wet, dark evening, a long convoy of black hearses, brought them from Ringway Airport, back to Old Trafford, where they were placed in the gymnasium to remain overnight, before being released to their respective families. Huge crowds lined the routes and I stood in Warwick Road, with my Mum, as those vehicles passed by - not a sound could be heard , except the rumble of the tyres on the cobbled road, and the quiet sniffles and sobs, as people's emotions got the better of them.

Funerals were held in the week that followed, and still, the mourning was so prevalent throughout the City. Attention became more focused on those that had survived, and the daily bulletin's concerning Duncan's recovery. Jimmy Murphy had traveled out to Munich and had returned back to Manchester with Harry Gregg and Bill Foulkes. Matt Busby had told him to keep the flag flying at Old Trafford, and he now had to go about the business of putting a team together to play Sheffield Wednesday in an F.A. Cup 5th Round tie on the evening of February 19th. The FA had allowed the club to postpone the game the previous Saturday, due to the closeness of the funerals that had taken place earlier that week. To get the patched up young team out of the way of the all the media interest, he took them away to the Norbreck Hydro in Blackpool. People back in Manchester were trying to get some normality back into their lives as they came to terms with the shocking event that had happened. That second week after the tragedy, Duncan's condition began to yo-yo. Professor Georg Maurer, who had worked so hard at the Rechts der Isar Hospital, in Munich, had said, that any lesser mortal than Duncan, would never have survived, given the injuries that he had suffered. Oh! how I wanted him to live!

On February 19th, together with Mum, and her friend from Ardwick, Mary Donohue, we attended the first game after the tragedy. I can remember that although it was a 7:30p.m. kick off, we got to the ground at 4p.m as we wanted to be sure of getting in. It was no surprise then, that at that time, there was already long lines outside each turnstile. It was a bitterly cold, afternoon/ evening, with a very clear sky. The turnstiles opened early, and people flooded into the ground. We stood on the "popular side" on the half way line, underneath the old shed, with the Glover's Cables factory immediately to the rear of the stand. There was a muted murmuring sound as the ground began to fill – it was eerie – not like a normal match day at all. People spoke quietly to each other, and there were still tears of sorrow being shed as people spoke to each other about the loss of so many young boys.

As the old steam trains drew into the station on the opposite side of the ground, the clouds of smoke came over the top of the main stand, opposite, making it look as though a fog had descended inside the ground. The programme was unique, and has since become a collector's item - United's teamsheet bore no names at all - just eleven empty blank spaces. At 6:45p.m. it was announced that they were having to close the gates - Old Trafford was jammed packed full - a far cry from my previous visit on January 25th, when I had watched my beloved "Babes" beat Ipswich Town 2-0, in the 4th round of the FA Cup. At 7p.m. came the announcement we had been waiting for - the team - I can hear that announcer even today as he at last announced United’s line-up; "In goal, Harry Gregg, Number two and Captain, Bill Foulkes; Number three Ian Greaves; Number four Freddie Goodwin; Number five Ronnie Cope; Number Six, and please welcome our new signing from Aston Villa, Stan Crowther - there was gasps when this was announced; Number seven Colin Webster; Number eight, another new signing, Ernie Taylor; Number nine Alex Dawson, Number ten, Mark Pearson; Number eleven Seamus Brennan.

Ernie Taylor had been signed from Blackpool the previous week. It was a great signing because little Ernie was so gifted and experienced having played a full career with Newcastle and Blackpool, winning Cup Winner's medals with both of them. Stan Crowther's signing was the surprise, as it had taken place just an hour before the kick off, and had been specially sanctioned by the FA. Stan, had in fact played in a previous round of the FA Cup that season for Villa, and is still the only man to play for two different teams in the same season in the FA Cup competition.

I can remember the roars of the crowd suddenly erupting like a giant geyser does as Bill Foulkes led United out from the player’s tunnel. Wednesday's skipper that night was Albert Quixall, who was later to join United the following year. Albert recalls the moment that he emerged from that tunnel, at the head of the Wednesday team. He said the wall of noise that met them, was like nothing he had heard before. In effect, poor Wednesday were on a loser whichever way that the game went - public opinion was dead against them, and God knows what would have happened that night had they won the game. They would have taken a slating publicly. As it happened, roared on by the crowd, United won 3-0. Towards the end of the first half, United got a corner on the left hand side at the Scoreboard end, and Seamus Brennan whipped in an in-swinger, which Jim Ryalls, the Wednesday keeper, could only help into the net. Shay scored again in the second half, and then big Alex Dawson, scored near to the end. The atmosphere was electric throughout the game and roars could be heard all over the city. Even the people who were locked out of the ground earlier that evening, did not go home - they stayed outside of the ground!

To win that match 3-0 was beyond people's wildest dreams, and as the crowds filtered out, and the ground emptied, there was a kind of eerie silence again on the way home. People had expended so much nervous energy in the preceding five or six hours, they were absolutely drained.

Sadly, the elation, and jubilation, of the Wednesday evening, was to turn to tears once again, on the following Friday morning. I can recall my Mum coming upstairs to my bedroom, waking me with gentle shakes, and telling me quietly that Duncan Edwards had died in the early hours of that morning. Once more, my world was shattered. The one player that I idolised more than anybody else, was now gone. No more would I witness the boyish exuberance of the man, as he emerged from the tunnel taking those great bounding leaps onto the pitch. No more would any of us hear him shout to his colleagues just before a match started; "Come on lads, we 'aven't come 'ere for nuffink!" The Giant was gone, and the Legend had just begun.

I used to find it difficult to talk about the tragedy - especially as I went from adolescence into manhood. There is no doubt that it left a big scar on me - and to be honest - not only me, but hundreds of kids like me. I was difficult to control for a while, and both Mum and Dad were so worried, that mentally, something had happened to me. As I said iearlier, in hindsight, they both realised that they were having to deal with somebody in deep shock. Even my schoolteachers voiced their concern to my parents, as I became disinterested, difficult, very introverted, and was only happy out on the sportsfield. I would play "wag" (truant) from school, and walk up to Weaste Cemetery just to stand in front of Eddie Colman's grave, as his was the only one that I knew how to get to. I wrote lots of stuff about the team, and the players as individuals - I only wish that I had that stuff today. It was a micabre pattern of behaviour. But I had known a number of those boys, and I was grieving. For a young boy, it was hard to come to terms with, losing heroes that I absolutely adored. At that age, knowing that I would never see them again had a profound effect upon me. I was United "daft" in the truest sense of the word!

I think that the main reason that the tragedy affected so many people in the way that it did, was because those players, staff, reporters, etc, were all part of the local community. In those days there was a very close proximity between players and fans, club and local community. It's hard to relate to today, and some of the younger readers may find this unusual, but all those boys, men, were just ordinary, every day guys. There were no prima donnas, no pretentiousness. They wer "stars" - yes, but in the nicest possible way. They were literally, "the boy next door." Just every day Joe's who happened to have the gift of being able to play football, and played for the club that they really loved - Manchester United. They were so accessible – to everybody! If you waited long enough after a match, you could travel home with one of them on the bus; meet them in the shops, and always at The Locarno in Sale on Saturday evenings after home games. I have a few mates in Sale who are a little older than me, but who have related to me tales of how they used to sit with them in the Locarno, and the United lads would have a lemonade on top of the table, but half of mild underneath it! Some of them would walk from Stretford to the city centre just to go to the cinema. They wouldn’t travel on the bus because in their own words; “to do that was boring!” Many of them could be found in the local parks during afternoons throughout the week watching the school kids playing football, and there would always be banter and laughter with them. They always had time of day for ordinary every day people – the fans! They never lost sight of where they all came from.

It was also a time when they had awakened the imagination of the British sporting public. Up and until around 1955, football teams had an average age of somewhere towards the very late 20's. All of a sudden, here was this team of really youthful young men, winning their first championship with an average age of 22, playing the most outrageous brand of attacking football. Sir Matt's long term vision and plan had been proved right, and the doubters, and there was many of them, were being proved wrong. Sir Matt, Jimmy, Bert Whalley, Tom Curry, had schooled them all in the correct way - the foundations of the Club that we know today, were laid by these great men, in those years immediately after Busby's appointment in 1945. Like the players, the staff were just as accessible - Walter Crikmer would walk around the outside of the ground on a match day, chatting with the fans. For the big matches that had to be "all ticket", the tickets were always sold on a Sunday morning. People would start queueing in the early hours, and by the time that the turnstiles were opened for sales (yes, they were sold at the turnstile!) at 10a.m. the queues used to stretch from the ground, down the bottom end of Warwick Road, then all the way down Trafford Park Road, and into Ashburton Road - some line I can tell you! But invariably, Busby, and Jimmy, would find time to walk down the lines, chatting here, chatting there - Crikmer would stand on the canal bridge on Warwick Road as if he was counting the fans! After ticket purchase, when you were leaving the ground, it wasn't unusual to see players either arriving at the ground, or leaving because they had had to be in for treatment to injuries, or strains, suffered in the matches played the previous day. It's also interesting, that although it was the era when the maximum wage of twenty quid was in force, not many of those players, even Roger Byrne the captain, was on that amount as a flat rate! They used to get two quid for a win, and a quid for a draw! But you never heard the slightest moan, groan, whisper, about money! Those lads just lived to play football, and would have played every day! They were unusual in a lot of ways, because socially, they were also a very close knit set of guys, and were all mates together. Byrne was a great, great, captain and leader, and was Matt's mouthpiece in the dressing room. He was also the route to "the boss" for the players. Roger kept everybody in line. It’s my honest opinion that Roger was being groomed by Sir Matt to eventually take over as the next Manchester United manager after himself.

It's true to say that because they played the game so well, and in the right way, in capturing people's imagination - more people wanted to see them, and this was when attendances started to increase. BBC had limited coverage of games around this time - they used to show clips of several matches on a Sunday afternoon - and those families that had television used to invite the less fortunate kids around to watch the programme. This enabled more exposure for them, and of course, then came Europe, and that really did capture people's imagination - especially after that first game against Anderlecht at Maine Road, on that wet, late summer evening, of September 26th, 1956, when they demolished the Belgians 10-0. There is no doubt, that the whole of England's football fans, (apart from City's!) at that time were really behind United in their push for the European Cup. The two epic games against the mighty Real Madrid in early 1957, also enhanced their reputation, especially after some dubious methods and tactics were used by the Spaniards in both of those games. The "Babes" were considered such great ambassadors for their Club, their city, and their country, and were held in such great esteem everywhere that they traveled.

Yes, even today I can get very emotional when talking about those times. And I'm certain that it's the same for most of the people that were around at that time. But in my opinion, these stories have to be told. The story of the "Babes" is such an important part of United's history - not so much the actual accident - but the story of those tremendous young men who lost their lives pursuing not only Matt's, and their own dream, but the dream of all of the fans as well. Their memory and legend must never be allowed to die. They were a very extraordinary group of young men, blessed with tremendous abilities, who conducted themselves impeccably, and played the game in the right way and in the right spirit - what we know of today as "The Manchester United Way." It's why our traditions are so strong, why mediocrity is not accepted, and why those traditions have to be passed on from generation to generation. It's why a lot of other clubs are jealous of us now, because we have always been there at the forefront, and they cannot compete with our history. It's why Manchester United is the FAMILY that it is, because when you are born into that tradition, it's there for life. When United bleeds, we all bleed. We can disagree with each other, curse each other, fight with each other, but at the end of the day, we all agree on one thing - THERE'S ONLY ONE UNITED!

tomclare
8th December 2006, 18:31
This was in answer to a query on another Forum.

Munich 1958 – What If?...

David Loh - 26.11.2003:

Just wondering what you guys think, and apologies if I'm babbling or if this has been discussed before. Also, I apologise in advance if any of you, especially Tom Clare and Johnno White, are offended by this post. Please believe me when I say that it is not my intent to be insensitive.

Manchester United today is arguably the biggest football club in the world, and definitely No. 1 in terms of supporter base. The United Legend and much of this support originates, in some way, from the tremendous amount of goodwill and sympathy generated by the Munich tragedy.

Sometimes I find myself wondering, "What if Munich never occurred?" Where would we be now, as a club? Would the string of titles and Cups the Busby Babes would undoubtedly have won be sufficient to guarantee our club the lofty perch it currently holds, or would we be another Leeds or Liverpool living off past glories?

(Also, I don't want to insult the board, but would the majority of us non-Mancs still be United supporters? What drew us to the club in the first place? I know Munich definitely played a big part when I, as a kid, and someone with absolutely no physical connection to Manchester, decided to support United in '82.)

The tragedy of Munich was immeasurable. I know I still get a lump in my throat when reading posts like Tom's a couple of weeks ago. I can only imagine how you guys, who are so much closer to it all, and especially pre-Munich supporters like Tom and Johnno, must feel. But, you know the saying, "Everything that happens, happens for a reason?"
The Munich legacy has guaranteed our club its current place in the world. How high the price?


Tom Clare:

David, I think it's true to say that these questions pop up on a regular basis. It's a good thing that they do in my opinion, because at this time, you are hearing opinions from people who were actually around, and witnessed the sad events of that time. Over the years, there has been a lot of rubbish and conjecture, written and talked about Munich, and the effect that it had on this great Club of ours. People who were not even around at that time, are now supposedly "authorities" on the subject, and have made a lot of money
from some of the tosh that they have written. Guys like myself and Johnno, and others like us, who are coming to the twighlight of our lives, can tell you the truth.

It's my experience that in life, you can never guarantee anything. As one of our most famous chants goes "Que Sera, Sera" - what will be, will be. Like Johnno, I too am fatalistic. There is no knowing for certain, just what heights that wonderful bunch of lovable young men would have scaled. Unfortunately, IF is a little word that separates nations, and believe me, we could sit here all day wondering about IF! For me, the only way I can answer your questions is from the views and opinions that I have formulated for myself given my own experiences.
I certainly don't want to bore everybody, because some of this they have heard before, but it is all part of trying to get you see the broader picture. Let me take you back to that time/period and try and put things in perspective for you.

In 1952, United had won their first post-war Championship after being runners-up on quite a number of occasions during the preceding six years. The Championship winning team of that year was pretty old, and they were nearing the end of their time. When Busby had taken the job on, in late 1945, he had insisted that he would be given a
five years contract to start with. This was because he had this revolutionary vision of producing a number of teams within the Club, starting at schoolboy level, through to the first team - that would all play in the right manner and spirit. In effect he wanted to capture the best young schoolboy footballers in the country, bring them to United, school them in the "United Way" and make sure that they provided a conveyor belt of good young players,( and the emphasis is on the word young) that would feed
through regularly to the first team.

After the Championship win of '52, he slowly began to dismantle that team, and introduce the first of his young players - Johnny Berry, Mark Jones, Roger Byrne, Jeff Whitefoot, Bill Foulkes, had all played that season. The two most significant things in the '53 season was that Tommy Taylor arrived from Barnsley, and the young colossus that
was Duncan Edwards made his debut. Slowly but surely, his visionary team was coming together. Busby had his critics back then, and a number of journalists took him to task saying that his master plan would never work. It was no coincidence that two other former great players who had become managers at that time, had more than seen the
wisdom of Matt's dream, and had started to put the same kind of policies together within their own respective Clubs - Stan Cullis at Wolves, and Ted Drake at Chelsea. Again, no coincidence that these Clubs contested some of the first FA Youth Cup Finals with United. In 1954/55 a lot of other young players were seen to make their debuts - Ray Wood became a permanent fixture in goal, Jackie Blanchflower, Freddie Goodwin, Colin Webster, David Pegg, Denis Violett, Billy Whelan, Johnny Doherty, Albert Scanlon. It was a transition year. 1955/56/ saw it all come together, and this bunch of young men of whom Alf Clarke of The Manchester Evening Chronicle, affectionately penned as "The Busby Babes" swept to their first Championship by a winning margin of some 11 points (unheard of in those days) and with a team whose average age was just 22 years old!
They played a brand of adventurous, open, attacking football, but also played it without fear, and nobody would dominate them. In '56, Eddie Colman had come through, as had Bobby Charlton, Ian Greaves, Ronnie Cope, Wilf McGuinness, Geoff Bent - the club had such amazing strength in depth, and all of them young, young, players, with great
careers ahead of them.

'56/'57 saw them enter Europe, and again, they played without fear and with such panache. This team of young stalwarts had captured the imagination of the whole of the British Nation, not only by the style of football that they played, but also with the way that they conducted themselves. You have to remember that there were a lot of big, big, players around then with huge reputations - but never, ever, did it at any time faze these young kids. They were brought up to follow Sir Matt, and Jimmy's, ideals, as to how the game should be played, and how players should look after themselves. They were a
credit to their club, and the various countries that they represented at International level, but mostly, they were a credit to themselves because their feet never left the floor - they were just ordinary, everyday lads, who just happened to love playing football. They were
the team that everybody wanted to see - attendances home and away rose signficantly, and it was at this time that United's fan base began to expand in all directions of the compass. They narrowly failed in their first quest for the European crown, but they did
retain their title, and were so cruelly robbed of the distinction of becoming the first "double winners" that century, only by Peter McParland's horrific assault on Ray Wood in the '57 F.A. Cup Final.

The '57/'58 season began, and for the first half of that season, United were not firing on all cylinders, and just before Christmas, Matt signed Harry Gregg who replaced Ray Wood in goal, and introduced Bob Charlton, Ken Morgans and Albert Scanlon into the team. Not firing on all cylinders, but they were lying third in the league come 6th February '58, 4 points behind the leaders Wolves, whom they were due to play at Old Trafford on February 8th. They were into the fifth round of the F.A. Cup, and were also into the pot for the semi-finals of the European Cup, and relishing the thought of another crack at the mighty Real Madrid!

At that time, it's interesting to look at how strong the Club really were. Apart from the first team, the Reserves had romped away with the Central league for the previous couple of years, as had the "A" and "B" teams, and the Junior team used to win games by astronomical figures! The Youth team had won the F.A. Youth Cup for the five years since its inception, and the following fact will really tell you how strong the club were in terms of playing depth. On an April Saturday, in 1957, United played a First Division game against Burnley at Old Trafford, and it was just before the home leg of the EC semi-final tie against Real. Sir Matt "rested" nine regular first team players that day, and replaced them with reserve team players. Bob Lord the Burnley Chairman played hell about it, and the F.A. looked into the matter of "Manchester United playing a weakened team in a first class fixture." United beat Burnley comfortably that day 2-0, and believe me, Burnley were no mean team at that time, and had some really established international players - Bob Lord never forgave United for that defeat!

Attendances were never as high as people say, but that was due to the fact that fans were selective in their games. One week could see 60,000 inside the ground and the next 30,000 depending upon who the opposition was. However, the reserves could pull in 10,000 for a match, and the Youth team ties used to attract 30,000! If youhave a look at the attendances for their away games though, it was a different kettle of fish. Against the different clubs concerned, they tended to attract the biggest attendance at that club for their season. So even at that time, Manchester United had captured the fans imagination.

Of course, then came that sad, sad, day of February 6th, when the lives of those eight young men were lost, injuries to several players meant enforced retirements, and young men were forced by necessity into the team way ahead of their time and they were nowhere near ready for it. But a lot of people tend to forget, that although United reached the FA Cup Final in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy, the following season, '58/'59, they actually finished runners-up in the First Division! Now when you take into account the happenings of that previous year, it shows you just how deep was United's talent at that time. Unfortunately, something had to give, and in effect it is that players, who, given the normal run of things, would have made a big impact at the Club, suffered, They
were pushed too early, and all the emotion, stress, and strain of what had been going on around them, obviously took it's toll - it was only natural - we're talking in some cases of teenagers. Players like Mark Pearson, Alex Dawson, Ronnie Cope, Freddie Goodwin, Ian
Greaves, David Gaskell (although he did play in the '63 Cup Final) Bobby Harrop, Peter Jones, Harold Bratt, Tony Hawksworth, Gordon Clayton, Bryce Fulton, Noel McFarlane.
There was a huge wave of emotion and sympathy that did help carry the Club along, and certainly, because of the tragedy, attracted a lot of "new" supporters. But as I said, United's fan base was already rapidly expanding prior to the tragedy. It's now that that little word IF comes to the fore - we'll never know for certain what that remarkable bunch of young men would, and could have achieved. It is my considered opinion though, that to quote Sir Matt's own words - "They would have won the Boat Race!" It's hard for people like myself, and others of my generation, to really get over to you, just what a great, great team, that pre-Munich side was, and they still had some years to go before they would have peaked. Certainly, I feel that had they drawn Real that season in either the semi, or if they had met them in the Final of the EC, they would have eliminated them, or beaten them in that Final. Real employed some really dubious tactics the previous year to beat United - we were on the rough end of some highly dubious Refereeing decisions in Madrid - it was a game where Di Stefano should have been sent off for blatantly kicking Eddie Colman who had done such a great marking job on him. In the return leg, Real had temporarily signed a full back from another Spanish First Division Club to counter David Pegg's running style - he'd destroyed Lesmes in the first leg. The full back was then returned to his club after the Old Trafford leg! I feel for certain that the European Cup would have been on the mantle at Old Trafford before the turn of that decade, and also, that United would have dominated domestic football in England for a long, long time, to come. I also feel that England would have probably won the World Cup in Sweden that year. Not only did they lose the United players, but Jeff Hall the Birmingham full back, who was partner to Roger Byrne for 17 consecutive matches, lost his life also just before Munich, a victim of polio. The heart had been ripped out of England's team. People forget that just over a year before Munich, England had battered Brazil at Wembley by 4-2 and had also missed two penalties in that game! Edwards mastered Didi in that same game, and they couldn't cope with Taylor's front running – he scored twice. Pele - I have no doubt Edwards would have mastered him!

We must never forget the legacy that Sir Matt, Jimmy, and those lads left us. The standards that they set, must never ever be lowered, and yes David, it was a high, high price to pay for what we see today . But you know, we were so privileged to see those young men, and to share the victories, the good times, and even more, the sorrow of their loss. Without doubt they are the base and the platform from what has been built since. Their legacy and legend must always be passed on, and they must and will, never be forgotten.

Barton Boys
8th December 2006, 18:40
Excellent piece of writing - as ever - Tom. I remember the 'shed' that became the Cantilever stand & then the North Stand & queueing to buy tickets through the turnstiles. I got my ticket for the '68 European Cup final in that way. I wonder where we will be in 10 years from now.